Episode 95

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Published on:

14th Apr 2023

Why Being Human in Sales is a Differentiator - Jen Allen-Knuth, Head of Community Growth, Lavender

Jen Allen-Knuth is the head of community growth at a badass SaaS company called Lavender. She's the co-founder of Social Social (an awesome community helping people with Linkedin content strategies) and key-note speaker at sales conferences. Lavender is an AI email assistant that helps anyone send emails that actually get opened, read, and responded to. It combines everything you need to easily write sales emails that break through the noise. Jen's background has been as an account executive and eventually Chief Evangelist at Challenger where she worked with amazing companies to enable their sales people to win deals in even the most down of down economies.

This episode with Jen was wide ranging. We discussed why the skill of being human is a real differentiator in sales and where salespeople are getting it wrong. Our chat also talk about things like - how to think about crafting your POV, tips from her favorite mentors, and how she approaches her content strategy on Linkedin.

Enjoy this one and get your notebooks ready!

So much goodness here.

Key Moments:

03:14 - Talking to a seller should feel like a conversation you enjoy having

4:34 - Why being human is a differentiator in sales today.

6:18 - Why you don't have to be an expert in sales.

09:45 - How Jen discovered her passion for sales

11:05 - Where Jen's skills of selling started before she started her sales career.

13:11 - Story of Jessie Dingwell, one of her first mentors and what she did so well

14:55 - The Challenger Sale and the meaning of it, and where salespeople get it wrong.

19:00 - Building relationships that start as a byproduct of being helpful.

24:00 - How to be human over cold email

32:00 - Jen's strategy on Linked in with her content.

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About the Podcast

Sell By Being Human
On the Sell By Being Human podcast, award-winning sales professional Alex Smith provides the proven way to harness your innate human skills like empathy, curiosity, and kindness to learn how to sell and navigate the sales journey.
This is where human connection and sales meet. You may be someone whose success depends on influence, negotiation, and your ability to create change, but you may reject aggressive sales tactics. Maybe you feel stuck in corporate "autopilot," knowing your best asset is your genuine personality, but you struggle to use it to get what you want. Then this channel is for you.

It will teach you how to close the gap between wanting to be ethical and feeling pressured to sell aggressively. You’ll also learn actionable strategies for translating emotional intelligence into high-trust results. Join Alex and top guests, including NY Times bestsellers, keynote speakers, and global founders, as they prove that being truly human is the ultimate sales advantage.

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Alex Smith

Alex Smith is a seasoned sales professional and podcast host who champions a human-first approach to selling. With nearly two decades of experience, he explores how empathy, curiosity, and genuine connection drive influence in everyday life. Through his podcast, he highlights stories from people across all professions, showing that anyone can persuade and create impact simply by being human.